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		<title>By: Robin Lionheart</title>
		<link>http://www.laytheism.com/blog/2009/this-i-used-to-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Lionheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny and it&#039;s sad listening to this. Here is a soul-sick, grieving woman who wants to understand &quot;why did my friend die?&quot;, and clearly very much wants to believe. Coach Hogan feels called on to save her, but all he brings are half-assed arguments against &quot;moral relativism&quot; and the like.

Hogan handwaves away the burning question Trisha really cares about by saying no one knows why your friend died, and don&#039;t believe anyone who says they do. Hogan thinks his platitude sounds wise, but it&#039;s plain to hear that this offers Trisha no solace. If Coach Hogan were really trying to understand Trisha&#039;s pain, he&#039;d recognize that. Alas, Coach Hogan can&#039;t relate to someone who sees &quot;God&#039;s ways are mysterious&quot; for the hollow non-answer it is.

Unfortunately for Trisha, Christianity offers no deeper answer to her question. Its shallow answer to every mystery is &quot;God did it&quot;. Why did God do it? That&#039;s a mystery. All it can do is answer mysteries with a bigger mystery and pretend that&#039;s a solution, offer a feeling of understanding and pretend it&#039;s true understanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny and it&#8217;s sad listening to this. Here is a soul-sick, grieving woman who wants to understand &#8220;why did my friend die?&#8221;, and clearly very much wants to believe. Coach Hogan feels called on to save her, but all he brings are half-assed arguments against &#8220;moral relativism&#8221; and the like.</p>
<p>Hogan handwaves away the burning question Trisha really cares about by saying no one knows why your friend died, and don&#8217;t believe anyone who says they do. Hogan thinks his platitude sounds wise, but it&#8217;s plain to hear that this offers Trisha no solace. If Coach Hogan were really trying to understand Trisha&#8217;s pain, he&#8217;d recognize that. Alas, Coach Hogan can&#8217;t relate to someone who sees &#8220;God&#8217;s ways are mysterious&#8221; for the hollow non-answer it is.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for Trisha, Christianity offers no deeper answer to her question. Its shallow answer to every mystery is &#8220;God did it&#8221;. Why did God do it? That&#8217;s a mystery. All it can do is answer mysteries with a bigger mystery and pretend that&#8217;s a solution, offer a feeling of understanding and pretend it&#8217;s true understanding.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://www.laytheism.com/blog/2009/this-i-used-to-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-374</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 12:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-373&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@forrest noble&lt;/a&gt; 
As always, good to hear from you, Forrest.  Your contributions are always valuable and enlightening.  I particularly like the garden analogy.  I&#039;m trying to get to a place where I can write more, so friends like you have a reason to drop by more often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-373" rel="nofollow">@forrest noble</a><br />
As always, good to hear from you, Forrest.  Your contributions are always valuable and enlightening.  I particularly like the garden analogy.  I&#8217;m trying to get to a place where I can write more, so friends like you have a reason to drop by more often.</p>
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		<title>By: forrest noble</title>
		<link>http://www.laytheism.com/blog/2009/this-i-used-to-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-373</link>
		<dc:creator>forrest noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 06:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Hugh,

Haven&#039;t said hi for awhile. I&#039;m quite sentimental myself but it&#039;s hard for me to get into the &quot;he said she said&quot; kinda stuff. But I enjoy your writings and perspectives so keep up the good work. Will continue to follow this site. your gb forrest

An atheist cultivates his own garden of morality. To be proud of your garden might be considered a most worthy goal. You can&#039;t please everyone all the time, is a well known aphorism. Those who look at the few &quot;weeds&quot; in your garden, even though they greatly enjoy the rest of it, do not realize that what they consider weeds, you (and others) may consider to be some of your garden&#039;s most endearing, exotic and ecologically balancing parts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Hugh,</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t said hi for awhile. I&#8217;m quite sentimental myself but it&#8217;s hard for me to get into the &#8220;he said she said&#8221; kinda stuff. But I enjoy your writings and perspectives so keep up the good work. Will continue to follow this site. your gb forrest</p>
<p>An atheist cultivates his own garden of morality. To be proud of your garden might be considered a most worthy goal. You can&#8217;t please everyone all the time, is a well known aphorism. Those who look at the few &#8220;weeds&#8221; in your garden, even though they greatly enjoy the rest of it, do not realize that what they consider weeds, you (and others) may consider to be some of your garden&#8217;s most endearing, exotic and ecologically balancing parts.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://www.laytheism.com/blog/2009/this-i-used-to-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-367</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 05:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-366&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Trisha Lynn&lt;/a&gt; 
Absolutely!  I think it&#039;s fascinating.  My own journey out of religion was circuitous at best.  I am so much happier, productive, relaxed, and free intellectually as an atheist/agnostic/non-believer.  I&#039;m so glad you found my blog, and thanks for stopping by.  I&#039;ve added you to my blogroll...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-366" rel="nofollow">@Trisha Lynn</a><br />
Absolutely!  I think it&#8217;s fascinating.  My own journey out of religion was circuitous at best.  I am so much happier, productive, relaxed, and free intellectually as an atheist/agnostic/non-believer.  I&#8217;m so glad you found my blog, and thanks for stopping by.  I&#8217;ve added you to my blogroll&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Trisha Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.laytheism.com/blog/2009/this-i-used-to-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-366</link>
		<dc:creator>Trisha Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 04:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugh: Thanks for your condolences. You can read more about what conclusions I&#039;m coming to about God in &lt;a href=&quot;http://trishalynn77.wordpress.com/2009/04/26/pascals-wager-for-agnostics/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this follow-up entry&lt;/a&gt;, if you like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugh: Thanks for your condolences. You can read more about what conclusions I&#8217;m coming to about God in <a href="http://trishalynn77.wordpress.com/2009/04/26/pascals-wager-for-agnostics/" rel="nofollow">this follow-up entry</a>, if you like.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://www.laytheism.com/blog/2009/this-i-used-to-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-363</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 03:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-362&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Bunc&lt;/a&gt; 
Indeed.  With a little more thought it would seem that there must be no god at all.  If there is, he is extremely lazy and incompetent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-362" rel="nofollow">@Bunc</a><br />
Indeed.  With a little more thought it would seem that there must be no god at all.  If there is, he is extremely lazy and incompetent.</p>
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		<title>By: Bunc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bunc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 01:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If god designed all this stuff then he didn&#039;t do it very well really did he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If god designed all this stuff then he didn&#8217;t do it very well really did he?</p>
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