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August 23rd, 2009
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Half of Georgia County Not Part of Any Church
July 31st, 2009
Mr. Buckner, thank you for giving a thoughtful, intelligent “invocation” at the recent Cobb County Commission meeting. Well done.
Atheist gives invocation at Cobb meeting
By MARCUS K. GARNER
9:11 a.m. Thursday, July 30, 2009
The Atlanta Journal-ConstitutionNo need to bow your heads, folks.
That’s what Smyrna atheist Edward Buckner told people before leading the invocation Tuesday night at the Cobb County Board of Commissioners meeting.
“It’s actually a protest against invocations,” the president of American Atheists said Wednesday night. “My goal is to get them to stop doing invocations.”
County board of commissioners chairman Sam Olens, reached by phone Wednesday night, said he was offended by Buckner’s actions.
“Did I find his comments repugnant and insulting? Yes,” Olens said. “He abused the process by giving an opinion … rather than providing inspiration.”
What Buckner did was thumb his nose at what he believed was an unconstitutional cross-section of religion and government, he admitted in his words Tuesday night.
Rather than any form of deity, he invoked “the 700,000 people who live in this county — especially the majority (yes, over half) of those 700,000 who are not members of any church, mosque, temple, or other religious organization,” he said.
“I speak as well for those political leaders who despair that success in politics cannot be achieved without hypocritical piety from politicians and who would prefer to run for office and to govern based on competence and political philosophy rather than on beliefs, real or pretended, in any supernatural beings.”
Olens, a candidate for state Attorney General, said he was surprised by Buckner’s tirade.
“I expected that it would be in the context of inspiration,” Olens said.
Buckner said he was disappointed that Olens made a “disclaimer” before he spoke, saying that federal law requires the county to let anyone who signs up make an invocation.
“This county is pro-religion and they act like anybody who isn’t is a second class citizen,” Buckner said.
Buckner is no stranger to protesting religion in government.
In 2005, he was one of seven Cobb residents who with the American Civil Liberties Union filed a federal lawsuit to halt the practice of invocations before board of commissioners’ and planning commission’s meetings.
But last year, the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals disagreed in a 2-1 ruling with a lawsuit’s contention that the Constitution permits only nonsectarian prayers.
And earlier this month, Buckner spoke out during public comment against the commissioners’ approval of a plan by the county’s development authority to issue up to $14 million in bonds to lend to North Cobb Christian School for renovations.
Olens said the county received an E-mail from Buckner requesting to do an invocation, and allowed it because of First Amendment laws.
“Had I stopped him before he started, he then would’ve had a federal action against the county,” Olens said. “That’s the price you pay for being American.”
Buckner had this to say for those he may have offended.
“Join me in asking Cobb County to stop having invocations,” he said.
Full video of the event here with a backup link here. Thank you to the Cobb County Commission for being respectful and polite during the proceedings. It’s just too bad that Olens is so chagrined by his fellow citizens exercising their rights that he had to go on record after the fact as being offended. The price you pay…? What an asshole…
Loved the smattering of applause at the end. I only wish I knew what Ed said in place of “under God” during the pledge… it obviously was not “under God”. Cheers, Ed.
Honest Search for the Truth — Part 1 Slavery
July 29th, 2009
Carl Sagan – Evolution Explained (Video)
July 23rd, 2009
How can one possibly see a video like this and believe that it was a Creator’s plan to create humans via a 4 billion year “designed” process? Listen to it several times if you must. Looking back from the vantage point we have now, it seems obvious that primitive men with a limited understanding of the world would invent God.
What we have learned in the past several thousand years is that we were not created at all, but evolved along a convoluted, haphazard, unpredictable line. We understand more about our origin now than ever, we shape our living environments, we control the atom, we are driving the earth to it’s next global crisis (and that only took a couple of hundred years). If we WERE created (say 6,000ish years ago), then why were we created in a fairly primitive state only to be allowed the recent advances to enhance our lives and destroy ourselves over the long haul? If that were the idea of our genesis, then god naturally knew the outcome, so then… why the hell would he do that? It makes no sense.
If you want to start to understand the world you live it, watch this video: Carl Sagan – Evolution Explained in Six Minutes. Then, move on to Carl Sagan – Pale Blue Dot and other mind-expanding ideas — you’ll see how tiny and insignificant we are in the universe… and how fragile.
When Will We All Be So Enlightened?
June 28th, 2009
Someday I hope that this point of view dawns on us all… Seen on Verbal Razors:
I regard monotheism as the greatest disaster ever to befall the human race. I see no good in Judaism, Christianity, or Islam — good people, yes, but any religion based on a single, well, frenzied and virulent god, is not as useful to the human race as, say, Confucianism, which is not a religion but an ethical and educational system.
— Gore Vidal
Wow… color me stunned and awed. Clearly I need to brush up on my Gore Vidal. I think I’ll start with Creation: A Novel.
And the people replied…