It’s a bit dated, but still relevant. This chart from the Wall Street Journal for an article about the number of Muslims in New York City. I was more interested in the numbers of atheists/agnostics/other non-religious in the graphic. Amazing that there can be so many of us living among you, and we still get so little recognition. Add up all the black/grey bubbles, and it’s almost as many as there are Catholics.
So weird that I used to listen to stuff like this and nod my head… granted, I was unlikely to attend because even when I was religious, I wasn’t fringe. Painful.
Restoring America? Seriously, First Redeemer?
Sign reads: Restoring America Conference, October 10-12, Ann Coulter, Herman Cain, Fred Barnes, Walid Shoebat, Free Admission
We are so screwed. Where is the great middle?? Left/right extremists are ruining this country.
The Naked Pastor posted these random thoughts the other day…
1. People don’t change their minds. Only rarely. Transformation is not a desirable option to our brains. It seems to require trauma, the threat of imminent death, to provoke real change of mind and bring about true transformation. Is it possible to enter death and be transformed while we are alive?
2. The greatest enemy of community is fantasy… visionary and wishful thinking. The lack of gratitude for what is, the unwillingness to appreciate what is, or the disdain for what is, erodes the fabric of community. Can we love unconditionally without coercion?
3. Our gross naiveté about the principalities and powers and their persistent desire and ability to enslave groups and individuals perpetuates the abuses institutions, including the church, are notorious for. Can all people be free?
4. Avoid naysayers as well as yes-men. You can always find complainers to agree with you. You can always find encouragers to agree with you. Can we find the courage to form our own minds independently, wisely, and compassionately?
I thought, hey… I like him. He’s is talking about deconversion in #1, because that’s what it was like for me to step away from faith. Constant bombardment with strange teachings in the Baptist church forced me to reevaluate the world we live in.
THEN, in #2 he nails it with typical religious thinking about the fantasy of a higher power vs. just appreciating this temporal gift of life on Earth, not just mine, but the whole human experience. We just got here (relatively speaking), and the Earth will be here long after we have faded to extinction. I already love unconditionally without coercion and don’t know how else you could.
#3… tell me about it.
And, regarding #4, don’t “seek approval” for your point of view. Establish it intellectually, with reason, and knowledge of the world and your fellow man. You don’t need other people to tell you what you should believe.
Holy crap, this dude’s batting 1000 in my book so far… but then came #5:
5. Listen to what the atheists are saying about the unprovability of God; discern the Christ-Principle in all things; have compassion for all beings. Is it possible to see all things as being reconciled?
Wha?! I rarely discuss the “unprovability of god”, but since you brought it up, what exactly is the evidence for God? If you look at the sum total of the things the Christian God gets credit for in the Bible, why would you WANT to believe in him? He wasn’t a good or just god. Jesus tried to correct all that, but please… look at the “miracles” he performed. His teachings were in line with to Mohammad, Confucius, Buddha, Plato, etc. (borrowed, ex post facto, by reasonable men writing down “history” many years later). Other than these writings, what evidence is there for god? For everyone good work, “divine” occurrence, or saved soul you can conjure, I can cite a dozen horrific, sad, disgusting things about the world that a good and just god would not allow… even a passive creator (with any “heart”) would not have created such a chaotic place.
Also, how would I find the “Christ-Principles in all things”?” As I understand it, the Principles of Christ are roughly, first, Faith in the Jesus Christ; second, Repentance… it really doesn’t matter after that because I get hung up on the FIRST one. I have faith that the human race has been duped for several millenia, for sure. With regard to “sin”, seriously, Catholics (et al), get a grip and just be good people… forget about all the EXTRA rules and regulations that the church has piled on. It’s not a “sin” to eat meat… ever. Weird.
How about we all just skip ahead to “have compassion for all beings”? I can get on board with that… why make it sound like I need belief as a crutch. See “The Golden Rule“.
The last sentence is stupid… no, we can’t reconcile all things, particularly mystical belief with intellectual reason. They are incompatible. Even less likely, reconcile your Christian mythology with a Islamic stranger an ocean away. Good luck.
However, abandon your fantastical beliefs, and then living with your fellow man, particularly the ones not like you, becomes much easier. I guess his thoughts were pretty random after all.
I was watching TV tonight and an ad for “Right from the Heart Ministries” came on… I first met Bryant Wright back in 1991 when Johnson Ferry Baptist Church (JFBC) was just a little tyke, at least compared to the huge monster it is now. He was always an affable fellow, and I attended his church for several years as a member. While I attended with my family, the church started to really grow (and grow) and the monster had an ever increasing appetite for money. Religion quickly fails without a steady stream of funds… faith may last, but organized religion is dead without cold, hard cash.
Over time, that aspect of church life among others really wore on me, intellectually and financially. We were driving more than 20 miles one way to attend his little slice of heaven, and I was amazed at how little our attendance, time, and money was appreciated. It was more of an expectation of a good Baptist. Bryant frequently reminded the congregation about his business background before he was “called” to Johnson Ferry. He was not so subtly making the point that for the church to prosper, it had to be run like a business. Um, duh. That’s how this stuff works. It was an important lesson for me and one of the many curiosities that interfered with the worship time that might have kept me in the flock. N-E-Way… I thought I would do a quick search for Pastor Wright and the second hit on Google was this nut case from Flickr.
I couldn’t help but think, “Hey, that looks just like Bryant Wright!” What do you think? Twins? Separated at birth? Long lost, pissed off brother?
Bryant Wright?
I thought it would be a fun thing to write about. In the course of my “research”, I ran across this:
Belief in the Lordship of Jesus Christ Baptists believe that Jesus is the only way to salvation and eternal life. We believe a personal decision must be made by each individual to repent from sin and trust Him as their Lord and Savior. We do not inherit our Christianity from our parents.
I disagree. The vast majority of people inherit their beliefs from their parents. Maybe he’s just pandering to the latest Pew survey that indicates many people switch faiths implying that if you find “Christianity” or “Baptistness” that you must truly have found salvation. Sigh. Honestly, I am shocked and saddened that it took me so long to wake up and walk away. Seriously, read this with fresh eyes and an open mind:
Baptists believe all Christians should read and study the Bible. We are not a creedal people. Our only creed is the Bible. In 2000, the Southern Baptist Convention adopted a revised confession of faith entitled “The Baptist Faith and Message” which says this about the Bible: “The Holy Bible was written by men divinely inspired and is God’s revelation of Himself to man. It is a perfect treasure of divine instruction. It has God for its author, salvation for its end, and truth, without any mixture of error, for its matter. Therefore, all Scripture is totally true and trustworthy. It reveals the principles by which God judges us and therefore is, and will remain to the end of the world, the true center of Christian union, and the supreme standard by which human conduct, creeds and religious opinions should be tried.
Come on! No error? Totally true and trustworthy? The Bible is masochistic and misogynistic garbage with a little of grandma’s tall tales and common sense mixed in written by primitive men with approximately zero scientific knowledge of the world.
Holy crap is what it is.
Additional search terms for those seeking common sense and a new church or intellectual home:
Good luck in your search for truth.
And the people replied…